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Sydney_Iron 4:16 Tue Mar 8
New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?

New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?

Been mulling this over the past day or 2, so what better place for a rational and informed opinion on the subject than WHO!!!!!

Climate change, extreme weather events, what looks like a man made virus, Russian invasions and maybe soon the Chinese as well, throw in Religious extremism and ISIS, massive disparity between the rich and poor, over population in some parts, mass migration just to mention a few things that have been more prevalent the past 5 or 6 years and even the rise of wokery and this desire from some to erase history.

I’m in no doubt the whole world order of things has changed with this invasion of Ukraine, a new cold war is now a certainly no matter what the outcome between Russian and Ukraine, but what about our lives as we know them and all the other shit going on, talk now of an energy crisis and food crisis just around the corner, are we getting more and more fucked and on a slippery slope to anarchy and an implosion of our way of life?.

The past 5 years thing just seem to go from bad to worse or am I unnecessarily (to coin one of my own much used phrases) “wetting my knickers”?

Mike Oxsaw 4:36 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?

Everybody (EVERYBODY) needs an evil bogeyman against whom they can measure their moral superiority: doesn't matter how it's labelled (the Sta-Puff man works well enough).

Son of Sam 4:57 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?

All true O.P. we have been on a downward spiral since the invention of the mobile phone and the internet.

PwoperNaughtyButNot 6:09 Tue Mar 8
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“In the future you will own nothing and be happy” WEF & UN agenda 2030

Or it’s all coincidental

PwoperNaughtyButNot 6:18 Tue Mar 8
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We are seeing the final death rolls of aging business and old leaders looking to obtain as much wealth as possible before their die:


Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better

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By Ida Auken


Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city – or should I say, “our city.” I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes.

It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.


First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car. Now I can hardly believe that we accepted congestion and traffic jams, not to mention the air pollution from combustion engines. What were we thinking?

Sometimes I use my bike when I go to see some of my friends. I enjoy the exercise and the ride. It kind of gets the soul to come along on the journey. Funny how some things seem never seem to lose their excitement: walking, biking, cooking, drawing and growing plants. It makes perfect sense and reminds us of how our culture emerged out of a close relationship with nature.

In our city we don’t pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.

Once in a while, I will choose to cook for myself. It is easy – the necessary kitchen equipment is delivered at my door within minutes. Since transport became free, we stopped having all those things stuffed into our home. Why keep a pasta-maker and a crepe cooker crammed into our cupboards? We can just order them when we need them.

This also made the breakthrough of the circular economy easier. When products are turned into services, no one has an interest in things with a short life span. Everything is designed for durability, repairability and recyclability. The materials are flowing more quickly in our economy and can be transformed to new products pretty easily. Environmental problems seem far away, since we only use clean energy and clean production methods. The air is clean, the water is clean and nobody would dare to touch the protected areas of nature because they constitute such value to our well-being. In the cities we have plenty of green space and plants and trees all over. I still do not understand why in the past we filled all free spots in the city with concrete.

Shopping? I can’t really remember what that is. For most of us, it has been turned into choosing things to use. Sometimes I find this fun, and sometimes I just want the algorithm to do it for me. It knows my taste better than I do by now.

When AI and robots took over so much of our work, we suddenly had time to eat well, sleep well and spend time with other people. The concept of rush hour makes no sense anymore, since the work that we do can be done at any time. I don’t really know if I would call it work anymore. It is more like thinking-time, creation-time and development-time.

For a while, everything was turned into entertainment and people did not want to bother themselves with difficult issues. It was only at the last minute that we found out how to use all these new technologies for better purposes than just killing time.

My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.

Once in a while I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. Nowhere I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.

All in all, it is a good life. Much better than the path we were on, where it became so clear that we could not continue with the same model of growth. We had all these terrible things happening: lifestyle diseases, climate change, the refugee crisis, environmental degradation, completely congested cities, water pollution, air pollution, social unrest and unemployment. We lost way too many people before we realized that we could do things differently.



Or it’s all a conspiracy

Mike Oxsaw 8:12 Tue Mar 8
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Son of Sam 4:57 Tue Mar 8

You're talking about the dissemination of information across both space & time (or propaganda if the message doesn't suit your agenda/belief system).

A better baseline would be the invention of the printing press, or, if you really want the original break-out point, cave paintings.

Nagel 8:55 Tue Mar 8
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You've bundled together a bunch of completely unrelated topics and stuck them all under the banner of a conspiracy theory that itself has been going on for donkeys years.

A lot of people these days seem to be of this opinion that the world is getting worse by the minute. I guarantee you that every one of them spends too much of their time ingesting "news" items on social media, talk radio, etc. You were probably a lot happier back in the days when you simply read the paper while having your morning crap and maybe caught the evening news after work.

WHU(Exeter) 9:41 Tue Mar 8
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The road ahead was lost when people started banging on about nut allergies and Ant & Dec first appeared on tv.

Mike Oxsaw 9:54 Tue Mar 8
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When we watched the Twin Towers fall live on TV, as I'm sure all/many of us did, what could you have done with that information that you couldn't have done if you had to wait to hear all about it on the six o'clock news?

What material difference did seeing it "live" make to YOUR life (and, yes, this IS all about YOU).

overbyyer 10:29 Tue Mar 8
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24 hour news needs to stop, because 24 hour news cannot possibly occur.

Regurgitated, opinionated information is what we've ended up with - cameras panning to dogs with sad faces is not news.

Its emotional blackmail.

Side of Ham 10:46 Tue Mar 8
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Treat it all like you do with West Ham Sydney, there’s fuck all you can do….. or do you like living with the misery?

Eerie Descent 12:41 Tue Mar 8
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The conspiracy nutter, David Icke, did an interview 7 years ago, and he called every single part of this War 100% spot on. The only thing about it that might upset some people is the reason he said it will happen.

BRANDED 12:51 Tue Mar 8
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I'm 60. In my lifetime somethings have changed a lot some not. I was born into the Cold War with total nuclear destruction a thing until I was in my late twenties. Most things that effect me have generally got better and better until the Covid nonsense. Thankfully that's looking like most of the restrictions will probably be removed in most places.

This War might just be another little War or escalate. Its hardly dropping the kind of ordinance the Yanks have dropped in numerous conflicts ( yet). Or agent orange etc.

Regarding climate change I see it as mostly a need to find new ways to create economic growth as the old ways are fading. Of course it also fits the new green economy religion as well.

Mostly I see rich old people clinging on to old ways.

Kaiser Zoso 12:52 Tue Mar 8
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*ordnance

zebthecat 12:55 Tue Mar 8
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Eerie Descent 12:41 Tue Mar 8

Stopped clock

zico 12:57 Tue Mar 8
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The sad thing for me is if we all realised that we are human beings, the same, and pooled technology, resources and minds together and stopped fighting each other then the world could probably solve half it's problems over night.

Eerie Descent 1:03 Tue Mar 8
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Yeah, I don't think it was him having a stab at whether it will rain on Christmas Day in 7 years time, Zeb, he has called this war in detail 100% spot on.

marlonsrightsock 1:12 Tue Mar 8
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Eerie are you sat in your bedsit with a pair of pants on your head and a pencil stuck up each nostril?

BRANDED 1:16 Tue Mar 8
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Kaiser Zoso 12:52 Tue Mar 8
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*ordnance

Them too son

Kaiser Zoso 2:37 Tue Mar 8
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Cheers Brando. Like it when you’re fully up to speed.

Russ of the BML 3:39 Tue Mar 8
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I would suggest you have a point if it wasn't for the fact that extreme weather events, climate change, invasions and wars, famine, religious extremism, huge class disparity, over population and mass migration have been going on for the course of human history.

I agree that with issues like migration and over-population there now isn't the space we once had. And there are newer issues like the cost of living, fuel and energy crisis.

But overall, its par for the course.

I am concerned about the current world order, specifically the global financial system. And I do fear that the world is changing so much that a system that was sustainable even a decade ago is no longer fir for purpose. To solve the cost of living, energy and fuel crisis then I believe there need to be huge changes to the monetary system.

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